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I was banned from Facebook for 3 days today for bullying:

The ban followed the last comment in the discussion below.

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Cindy DanceintheRain Sheehan writes “Ima gonna fix this headline for the NYP:

“A Refreshing Number of Smart Healthcare Workers are Refusing to be Used as Human Guinea Pigs for an Untested Drug that has Not Been Proven to Prevent Covid and is Making BILLIONS for Big Pharma.”

You’re welcome!“

NYPOST.COM
Alarming number of US health care workers are refusing COVID-19 vaccine

U.S. health care workers are first in line to receive the COVID-19 vaccine — but an alarming number across the country are refusing to do so.  Earlier this week, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine di…


Joseph H Liles
Now that is more like it. Say no to the prick.

Jens Andersen
Claus Nielsen
as you can see, a lot of Americans are not buying the vaccine story. I think this is wise. The resistance to taking an experimental genetic therapy intravenous drug is rising (it’s not a vaccine in the traditional sense). I would also strongly advise against it. It’s long term effects are not know. Experts are warning against loss of fertility and auto-immune disease as side effects. At best it’s harmless and will do you no good but no ill. At worst it could ruin your life. No reason to take it at all.

Claus Nielsen
Jens Andersen
Untested…? The vaccine has been through all the highest possible quality tests by health care authorities all over the world. This is real sick paranoia. They have that a lot in the US, here after four years of Donald Trump brainwashing. As the article says, “… a doctor at Houston Memorial Medical Center told NPR earlier this month that half the nurses in the facility would not get the vaccine, citing political reasons. vaccine, the newspaper reported.”

Jack Adams
Claus Nielsen

https://off-guardian.org/2021/01/03/what-vaccine-trials/

OFF-GUARDIAN.ORG
What Vaccine Trials?

Claus Nielsen
Jack Adams
Don’t EVER trust Off-Guardian, it brainwash you with fake news and Russian infiltration.
“Overall, we rate OffGuardian a Strong Conspiracy and Moderate Pseudoscience website that also promotes Russian propaganda.”
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/offguardian/amp/
MEDIABIASFACTCHECK.COM
OffGuardian – Media Bias Fact Check

Zach Fresa
Claus Nielsen “The vaccine has been through all the highest possible quality tests by health care authorities all over the world.”
Keep dreaming. You’ve not seen that reported anywhere. The opposite in fact is openly reported in all media. These pharma products have been developed and delivered “at warp speed” (in a small fraction of the time normally required), with safety and efficacy trials shorted. This has been presented as “necessary”.

Claus Nielsen
Zach Fresa
Don’t EVER trust Off-Guardian, it brainwash you with fake news and Russian infiltration.
“Overall, we rate OffGuardian a Strong Conspiracy and Moderate Pseudoscience website that also promotes Russian propaganda.”
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/offguardian/amp/
MEDIABIASFACTCHECK.COM
OffGuardian – Media Bias Fact Check

Zach FresaClaus Nielsen I trust Off-Guardian. You trust mainstream media?

Jack Adams
Claus Nielsen
When you can’t refute the message, shoot the messenger.

Claus Nielsen
Zach Fresa
Media, as a holistic entity, can never get away with cheating a global audience. The truth will always dominate. Whereas a biased media as OffGuarding can fuck with your brain big time.
“OffGuardian also frequently promotes conspiracy theories regarding GMOs such as Post-Brexit Farming, Glyphosate and GMOs. Although this story utilizes some credible sources, it also cites Mercola, which is a website that promotes quackery level pseudoscience. They also promote 9/11 conspiracies such as The Fakest Fake News: The U.S. Government’s 9/11 Conspiracy Theory. They frequently cover False Flags and the US Deep State conspiracy as well as anti-vaccination propaganda.”
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/offguardian/amp/
MEDIABIASFACTCHECK.COM
OffGuardian – Media Bias Fact Check

Zach Fresa
Claus Nielsen “…Media, as a holistic entity, can never get away with cheating a global audience. The truth will always dominate. Whereas a biased media as OffGuarding can fuck with your brain big time.”

That is breath-taking unfounded assertion that defies what’s in plain sight every moment of the day and night:

We live in the midst of mass media that’s powered as if by a supernova fusion star of limitless energy entirely channeled into lying and deceiving 100% of the time as if it’s its job, because it is its job.

And it gets away with it. Always. Apparently it’s easy too. It gets away with it because people are dumber than pavement, generally.

Claus Nielsen
Zach Fresa
Wow … that’s really hardcore paranoia, on a large scale, and a sad and gloomy look at humanity. Try and let some light in, you must suffer hard in that darkness.

Zach Fresa
Claus Nielsen hardly. It’s fact. I’m 54. I’ve watched and read American mass media voraciously since I was 12. I’ve seen it change. What it is now, it became gradually. Today it is unwatchable, unreadable, because it is absolutely purely hysterical psychotic gibberish. Totally corrupted ranting, lunatics, reporting absolutely nothing, fomenting an ever larger cloud of confusion, terror, fear, panic, doubt, and madness.

Zach Fresa
Claus Nielsen i was too moderate in my replies. How many times above did you post the same “fact check”?

What passes for you as a “fact check” is a playlist of greatest hits in the annals of bullshitting. But you don’t notice.

“Russian meddling”! (jesus christ on a bicycle, you continue promoting this absolute idiocy?)

Criticizing the unelected permanent power structure is to promote “the Deep State conspiracy” (you have to be, yeah, dumber than pavement to bury your head so deep in the sand under the pavement).

“Off-Guardian promotes pseudoscience”, says the “fact-checker” parrot of PR that fronts the supernova fusion star powered corruption machine that has well and truly debased every institution of science.

And so on.

You’re unaware that your mutually incompatible AND individually asinine —-

“Media, as a holistic entity, can never get away with cheating a global audience. The truth will always dominate.“

and

“Don’t EVER trust Off-Guardian, it brainwash you with fake news and Russian infiltration.”

—- Illustrate very well what it looks like to be imprisoned in gloomy hardcore paranoia convinced you’re standing outside in full sun.

Jens Andersen
Zach Fresa accepting that the media is capable of outright lies is extremely difficult for most people. because it would bring their entire world view into question.

Claus Nielsen
Is this article all lies and manipulation?
https://politiken.dk/del/h2QHcbAAYETw
Fotoreportage fra en presset afdeling: Patienter, der svæver bevidstløst på kanten af døden. Kvinder og mænd i god form, der kæmper for hvert et åndedrag

Fotoreportage fra en presset afdeling: Patienter, der svæver bevidstløst på kanten af døden. Kvinder og mænd i god form, der kæmper for hvert et åndedrag

Jens Andersen
Claus Nielsen do you have a clear idea about what hospitals are for and why they have a given size? you believe they have beem dimensioned and staffed to be empty? this trash fear-porn is what the media now produces by the meter because they now have a
trash narrative to tie it to. many more people died (for example) in 2017-2018 and hospitals were
three times as full… except nobody cares. so yes,
this is
manipulation because the wider
context is purposely missing.

Jens Andersen
Claus Nielsen this is like going to a morgue and saying ‘what a shock! look at all the dead bodies!’… well… its a morgue…

Claus Nielsen
Jens Andersen
Ok, good to know. I’ll complain to Politiken, referring to your statement.

Jens Andersen
Claus Nielsen but i can tell you are enjoying your own outrage and emotional reaction to these things – so you are really the perfect audience for such disease-pornography

Jens Andersen
Claus Nielsen sure -please do.

Zach Fresa
Claus Nielsen yeah, I can only read the headline:

“Photo report from a pressured ward: Patients hovering unconscious on the brink of death. Women and men in good shape, fighting for every single breath
Photo report from a hard-pressed intensive care unit.”

Yeah, like Andersen said, if I walk into an intensive care unit, and DON’T see “patients hovering on the brink of death” and people with severe respiratory illness (which has been among the most common human illnesses, since, forever), I don’t know, what should I expect to see?

I walk into intensive care unit and I should see, roulette wheels? um, shrimp sandwiches and snaps?

https://zachfresa.com/2020/12/07/age-of-superstition/

We live in an era now where basic, fundamental, scientific knowledge is erased and buried. The age of reason annihilated:

https://zachfresa.com/…/to-no-germs-do-we-succumb…/

Jens Andersen
Claus Nielsen what amazes me (for a media person) is that you dont understand the following: media stories are designed to elicit an emotional reaction. this is what they do – and boy did they hit the sweet spot with you 

Claus Nielsen
Jens Andersen
Yes, I love the media. They are such an important part of our society and our democracy.

Claus Nielsen
Zach Fresa
You have strong opinions. But who are you really?

Zach Fresa
Claus Nielsen Who am I? Are you paranoid? Shouldn’t I have strong opinions? It’s a basic ingredient of reason

Jens Andersen
Zach Fresa Claus Nielsen correct. So we have documented cases of direct fake news by mainstream media – and many of them. There are countless other cases where the news may not be direct lies (as in the case with the hospital above) but where there is a clear intention to shock and emotionally manipulate the reader – while purposely removing any reasonable point of reference (i.e. lying by lack of proper context). The latter category is probably a little more common, but equally manipulative and deceitful. What we’ve seen – as Zach Fresa says – is (to my knowledge) the biggest gigantic onslaught of media manipulation in the history of the world, 24/7, on all channels, relentlessly pounding people’s minds with disease porn – and at the same time censoring anything that tries to gently prod people in the opposite direction. It is in no way surprising that most are – after nearly a year of this – brainwashed beyond hope.

Claus Nielsen
Zach Fresa
It certainly looks like you are hiding your true identity, as you haven’t published an “About” page on your blog. Makes me paranoid! I want to know who I am discussing with, otherwise it is impossible to take strong opinions seriously. I myself is very transparent, you can find all about me by Googling, LinkedIn and Twitter, whereas you are not to find any of these places. Like you are hiding yourself for some reason. 


Zach Fresa
Claus Nielsen yes. I also am on LinkedIn and twitter and have a profession and a background. But because I live in a non-democratic totalitarian police state (that calls itself a democracy), and need to keep my corporate job (or used to), I blog and Facebook under a pseudonym.

Not that my writing is worth anything but no doubt you’ve heard of real writers, many of them famous, who’ve written under pseudonyms for a variety of legitimate reasons.

I’m a very ordinary working class dude (I need a job to survive) with an ordinary life story (like all of us) and compelled to call bullshit bullshit, which is the entirety of the American political establishment, and its mind-rotting corporate media arm.

Anyone who wants to find my real identity can find it with minimal effort in less than 15 minutes.

And it goes without saying that every identity and pseudonym is matchable with an instantaneous lookup by security agencies without even any need to stray beyond Facebook data to make the match.

Cindy DanceintheRain Sheehan
Claus Nielsen give it up, Claus, you are wrong

Zach Fresa
Cindy DanceintheRain Sheehan the beauty of Facebook, that real people come together and let each other know they are not alone. No doubt this will be short-lived. As we are all constantly told:

“only corporate media has anything legitimate to say. Your job is to mask up, shut up, follow orders, believe what you’re told. Else you’re a conspiracy theorist. And underlying that: you are NOBODY. You DON’T matter.”

Cindy DanceintheRain Sheehan
Zach Fresa
well, it certainly has separated the wheat from the chaff! Glad we are on the same side.

Jack Adams
Claus Nielsen – “Try and let some light in”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcWVL4B-4pI

Manfred Mann – Blinded by the Light

Cindy DanceintheRain Sheehan
Zach Fresa
didn’t Claus forget a “von” before Bulow?

Claus Nielsen
Zach Fresa
As you are an unknown person, cowardly hiding your identity behind a synonym, you cannot be taken seriously at all, and your strong opinions have no weight at all. You can simply not claim to be a real person.

Zach Fresa
Claus Nielsen I’ve been too kind to you here. Fact is, when you write, you show yourself far below average intelligence. Every sentence. But your weak vacuity carries tremendous weight. Because you’re a “real person”. Got it

Claus Nielsen
Zach Fresa
Thank you for your information about your anonymity. That explains a lot. It is quite outrageous to participate in important discussions about a global health crises, with strong attacks on the authorities and media, and then hide your true identity. Such behavior undermines our democracy, it is cowardly and no sane person can take your arguments seriously.

Zach Fresa
Claus Nielsen wow. I’m undermining your democracy. You’re fucking brilliant

Claus Nielsen
Zach Fresa
Attacking me personally for having low intelligence, is exactly the kind of raving unworthy rants, that you only find from people hiding themselves cowardly behind anonymity. Shame on you.

Zach Fresa
Claus Nielsen That’s a counterattack.

Rob Snyder
Claus Nielsen OK. I am Rob Snyder. I changed my account to my real name. Here is my linkedin profile: (omitted)

Rob Snyder
what is the weight of my opinions, in your opinion, now that you have my profile information and name?

Rob Snyder
Do you want my phone number? Address?

Claus Nielsen
Rob Snyder
Thank you very much. Much easier to relate to strong opinions, when you know a little more about the person behind, and the person is not hiding their identity, for what ever reason. Now I’ll wait and see if you continue your derogatory mentions of people who disagree with you, and continue general bad mouthing.

Rob Snyder
Claus Nielsen is this derogatory: you attacked, me. OK. Do you not see that? Are you satisfied with yourself? You made this conversation ENTIRELY about my “identity” instead of engaging in actual discussion. Is that going to change now?

Claus Nielsen
Rob Snyder
Please use polite language. It is not worthy to discuss like that.

Rob Snyder
Do you intend to advocate identifying people who don’t mask and don’t accept Pfizer injections and target us for removal from society? You consider that “not an attack” but rather necessary for public health safety? Do you consider people dangerous disease carriers? Is that polite, or derogatory?

Rob Snyder
I express my observations about the criminal society I’m born into and you characterize that as “opposing authorities” and “undermining democracy”. But that, your characterization, you claim, that’s not “derogatory”; that’s “being polite”.

Claus Nielsen
Rob Snyder
I would at any time advocate for strong and precise public information about acting socially responsibly by wearing masks and get vaccinated. I don’t believe in using force to obtain this. I trust the majority of the population to be sound and responsible in doing the right thing. When we later this year will be approaching herd immunity, I will probably personally avoid people that hasn’t been vaccinated.

Claus Nielsen
Rob Snyder
If you really find yourself born into a “criminal society”, I strongly urge you to use your democratic rights to approach our politicians, or even join a political party, and run for parliament and work for a better society.

Rob Snyder
Claus Nielsen OK. I would say, that’s good, but, it’s not going to work out so good. This (strong and precise public) information you mention is:

— putting the health of those taking the vaccination at risk, for no publicly justifiable reason
— will result eventually in an apartheid society, again for no justifiable reason
— not based on actual science and not based on reasonable interpretation of either illness rates or death rates

I also add that, intensive psychological manipulation, via mass media, is a form of force. And is unjustified by real, uncorrupted, science, or public health considerations. It is the hand maiden, the club, in fact, of tyranny. Utterly derogatory and impolite. To say the least

Rob Snyder
Claus Nielsen In the United States that long ago became impossible. It’s like telling Germans in 1942 to reform the Nazi party by running for office. The US political system is 100% corrupted and controlled 100% by true psychopaths, both parties, and the entities and people behind both of them

Rob Snyder
I start with a doubt about the presumed purpose of lockdowns. If the purpose is to reduce harm from an exceptionally harmful respiratory illness, then illness and death rates must be seen to be significantly in excess of normal annual variation in illness and death rates.

But in many countries there is no significant excess beyond normal annual variation, including many countries in Europe and the United States.

There is rigorous data analysis for Sweden and the US here:

“Even with Covid-19, Sweden’s absolute mortality rates are at all-time historical lows.”
https://twitter.com/voidsurf1/status/1320269572700819456…

Complete twitter thread: https://twitter.com/voidsurf1/status/1320269542174720000…

Similar analysis for the US: https://twitter.com/voidsurf1/status/1313777624674709506…

Euromomo graphs show fatality rates within normal variation in many countries in Europe https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps

For those countries, the premise of lockdown would have to be shifted to: “lockdowns will reduce harm from respiratory illness, to levels that are LESS THAN the currently normal rates of illness and death.” Such a premise can be dismissed at the outset and one has to search for other purposes of lockdown in such circumstances, namely: harm enhancement.

Worth investigation is the possibility that harm enhancement has been carried out “successfully” in some countries, or in parts of some countries, where the effect of lockdown amplified harm, in combination with systematic medical malpractice following from changes to standard healthcare protocols that were mandated through a newly introduced C19 policy regime, the acceptance of which was effectively reinforced through a c19 fear and hysteria campaign promoted through mass media. Lockdown, and policy-driven medical malpractice may have worked as designed, to enhance harm, to promote unfavorable (to patients) healthcare outcomes.

Also important, the (mis)definition of “cases” and misuse of PCR testing:

Papers claiming high IFR for C19 classify death based on the Drosten PCR which is shown to be dubious here: https://cormandrostenreview.com/report/

Commentary here:
http://williamengdahl.com/englishNEO10Dec2020.php

All of the above applies likewise to vaccines.


Rob Snyder
Cindy DanceintheRain Sheehan
ran for political office in the US. A good story. Instructive

Brigid Whipple
Rob Snyder
you are being far too kind. You must have taken your patience pills this morning. 

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Rob Snyder

Jens Andersen writes “If anyone can find a pandemic in Denmark, please mark this chart to tell me where it is.

There is lower than normal mortality in DK for 2020.”


Emmar O’Brien
Cite?

Rob Snyder
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/

Emmar O’Brien
Thank you.

Claus Nielsen
WRONG CONCLUSION!
“- The excess mortality is real, and we clearly connect it to the big increase in the spread of infection by coronavirus, says Tyra Grove Krause, Head of Department at the State Serum Institute (SSI), to the newspaper.”
https://www.berlingske.dk/…/for-foerste-gang-under…
BERLINGSKE.DK
For første gang under corona har Danmark reel overdødelighed

Rob Snyder
Claus Nielsen
what do you mean, “wrong conclusion?” Where is it on the all-cause mortality graph for Denmark?

Rob Snyder
Claus Nielsen
oh I see. Denmark has 100 to 200 excess deaths:

“Copenhagen. The last weeks of 2020 offered, for the first time during the corona epidemic, a “real and significant” excess mortality in Denmark.

It writes Jyllands-Posten.

Excess mortality means that more people die than one might expect compared to previous years.

This was the case in weeks 51, 52 and 53, where 100-200 more Danes died than could be expected.

– The excess mortality is real, and we clearly link it to the large increase in the spread of infection with coronavirus, says Tyra Grove Krause, head of department at the Statens Serum Institut (SSI), to the newspaper.”


That’s what you’re relying on for your “conclusion”. 100 to 200 total deaths is statistically INVISIBLE.

I ask you, is it a) that you are paid to obfuscate? or b) that you are incapable of understanding even the most basic statistics?

Rob Snyder


Emmar O’Brien
It really does seem to be a matter of what we’re used to, and we will either get used to covid (and learn how to navigate it) or it will go away. I feel like this is going to go on interminably, the media latching onto novel things and people being caught up in fighting about them. It doesn’t help when most people can’t just ignore the issue at hand, either. But it’s self-perpetuating.

Daniel Volpe
Non stop fear propaganda being pumped out 24/7.

Jeff Buffington
Just remember, WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE…one day.

Claus Nielsen

Rob Snyder
Claus,
you’re a font of astroturfed “conventional wisdom” that is scripted in PR firms to serve fascism by annihilating public discourse, about anything. I’ve seen you do NOTHING to contribute to democratic discourse. You ONLY smear and debase, as if its your job.

Trump could announce that walking around with your finger in your anus is not good and doesn’t stop the virus, and then, well, if you don’t wear a mask and keep one hand in your pants and one finger up your ass, then “you’re a Trump supporter and Covid denier.”

Claus Nielsen
Rob Snyder
You are sinking to new lows in your way of “debating”, and I don’t find it neither constructive nor worthy to continue any form of discussion with you.

Rob Snyder

Claus Nielsen there is nothing lower than you. You contribute nothing to discussion. You ONLY ridicule , denounce, smear humanity. What do you promote? You promote depriving every human being of the ability to breathe air unimpeded by a diaper on the face. You promote propaganda that distorts and compels every person to inject themselves with toxic corporate trash that will harm their health.

You’re NOT civil. You masquerade as civil. But it doesn’t hide your grotesque lack of civility. You are a servant of monstrous evil with a capital E

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There ended the discussion.

I add a link and an excerpt:

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/05/great-unreason-2020-curious-quite-authentic-jack-kerwick/

The Great UnReason of 2020: The ‘Curious, but Quite Authentic, Inability to Think’

Remembering Hannah Arendt.Thu May 7, 2020 Jack Kerwick

Once the war was over and some prominent Nazis were brought to justice, Arendt attended the trial in Jerusalem of Adolph Eichmann, the architect of the Holocaust.

The experience left an indelible impression upon her, one that would shape the trajectory of her philosophical thinking.  What she observed was that, much to her surprise, Eichmann wasn’t the incarnation of evil that she expected to encounter.  His actions were monstrous, yes; but he was remarkably ordinary or “banal,” to use Arendt’s term of choice.

What struck Arendt was Eichmann’s “curious, but authentic, inability to think.”

However monstrous the deeds were, the doer was neither monstrous nor demonic, and the only specific characteristic one could detect in his past as well as in his behavior during the trial and the preceding police examination was something entirely negative: it was not stupidity but a curious, quite authentic inability to think.”  

Eichmann didn’t subscribe to any “theory or doctrine,” exhibited no “particularity of wickedness, pathology, or ideological conviction;” his “only personal distinction was a perhaps extraordinary shallowness.”

Note, Arendt did not intend her characterization to be interpreted as commentary upon Eichmann’s IQ.  Nor, for that matter, did she mean to suggest that he was literally incapable of thinking critically.  Rather, her point was that Eichmann showed no will to think beyond the clichés—the memes, bumper sticker slogans, and hashtags—of his day.

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